December 4, 2008 3:00 AM PST

Online auctions remain piracy problem for Microsoft

Posted by Ina Fried
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Attention, software buyers: there's no such thing as Microsoft Office "Blue Edition."

That's the latest ruse making the rounds on online auctions. It feigns to be some sort of technician version of Microsoft's software that happens not to require a serial number or product activation or any of Microsoft's antipiracy mechanisms. In actuality, Microsoft says, it's just the latest wrapping for a pirated version of the company's software.

"That program is entirely fictitious," said Matt Lundy, a senior attorney for Microsoft. "It's nothing more than a scheme by pirates to confuse and deceive consumers."

The so-called Blue Edition of Office shown here is nothing more than a cheap pirated copy, Microsoft says. The problem is that the software has been selling well via online auctions.

(Credit: Microsoft)

Microsoft has targeted those selling the "Blue Edition" as well as several other elaborate schemes in a series of 63 lawsuits in 12 countries, including a number of actions filed this week in the United States.

In addition to targeting Blue Edition sellers, Microsoft is going after pirates in New Zealand that were selling counterfeit copies of Windows XP that were shipped to buyers in the U.S., directly from China.

"It really highlights the global nature of the problem," Lundy said. Windows XP remains the version of Windows most often pirated, Lundy said, although in some cases Vista is also being offered.

Although eBay was among the places where those targeted in some of the suits sold their wares, Microsoft said it isn't blaming the online auction site.

"We hold the pirates responsible for piracy," he said. "All online marketplaces are susceptible to abuse."

Piracy is, of course, a huge problem for Microsoft. The lawsuits, while perhaps necessary, don't seem like they will stop such schemes. But maybe they will force pirates to shift tactics, or at least change colors.

Note: Lundy was originally quoted as saying he holds pirates responsible for privacy. He said piracy. I've fixed it above.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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by maxmulvey December 4, 2008 3:54 AM PST
My computers come pre loaded with Microsoft Windows, within months of purchasing the system, the computer crashes. Backup files and system restore have not ever, EVER worked for me. I end up at Wal-Mart buying another copy of Windows and Office. Surely people like me who purchase software multiple times for the same computers more than make up Microsoft's losses from pirates! I've called Microsoft and my computer manufacturer probably 15 times now, I usually connect with an English as a second language person who cannot understand how to help. The same things happen at work but it's much easier to install a software version that comes on a DVD with a serial number. I guess that if the military switched to Apple OS'es that we wouldn't have this problem as I have never heard of an Apple OS needing to be re-loaded.
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by ricegf December 4, 2008 4:54 AM PST
Another option when Windows crashes and Microsoft refuses to help recover without more cash is to just install Ubuntu (http://ubuntu.com). It costs nothing, is remarkably stable and easy to use, is compatible with Microsoft's file formats, and comes with all the functionality for which you have to pay extra with Windows or Mac (office software, graphics, communications, desktop publishing, and a long long slate of games). Best of all, tech support is free (http://ubuntuforums.org) and supplied by *real people* rather than scripted cubical dwellers across the sea. Try it! You'll love it! (Disclaimer: I have no financial interest in Canonical - I'm just a happy user.)
by bensobel December 4, 2008 6:19 AM PST
Why do you need to buy another copy of the software? That is not logical, unless the preloaded version was a pirate copy to start with.
by gp2792 December 4, 2008 6:19 AM PST
if you bought the computer with windows and office pre-loaded, then you own the license from the OEM. Don't blame Microsoft for your hardware vendor not supporting you. You should never buy another copy of office or windows to replace the same version on your machine...that doesn't make any sense!
by CrashPad63 December 4, 2008 6:26 AM PST
Im calling BS on this comment. Every once in a while you may need a refresh. And for that PC OEM's have restore feaures that do not "work", and to go out and buy another copy when the OEM supplies this for you is rubbish. Dell, HP, Gateway all will send a disc for anyone asking.
Your whole post is just smacks of an Apple Troll.
by Penguinisto December 4, 2008 6:50 AM PST
@bensobel: Sometimes an OEM ships the computer with a 'restore partition' instead of re-install media. You have to ask for a disk, or pay for the privilege (a nominal fee, but you still have to put up with the shipping wait if you didn't ask for it to be included with the purchase).
by UITD December 4, 2008 7:27 AM PST
@ricegf: Linux is NEVER an option.

If you crash your car because you dont know how to operate it, do you blame who made OR even who sold you the car? (well, probably, knowing some of the people I've met in my travels)

People, educate yourselves in how to do a backup and a restore and what emergency disks are and where your replace disks are OR if you need to make your replacement disks.

Stupidity and ignorance of how to operate your computer is no reason to bash Microsoft - though, just like Bush, you'll blame everything including a hangnail on Microsoft.
by faboumen December 4, 2008 8:31 AM PST
@Penguinisto: You can create a restore disk from the partition, at no cost.
by cnet_user_0 December 4, 2008 9:45 AM PST
When software comes preloaded in a Windows configuration, then you can be pretty sure that the PC manufacturer has its own bloatware that circumvents Windows standard backup and restore features. Case in point: Lenovo. Believe me I have a Lenovo Thinkpad and I can never use the backup feature of Vista because the Lenovo Thinkvantage (POS software) takes over with its own flavours of Windows system utilities.

But if you install Windows clean on a PC without the PC manufacturer's bloatware, you will be sailing high without any system problems. I think all of these PC manufacturers hire Mac users who intentionally sabotage the Windows configuration. :-)
by coryschulz December 4, 2008 5:39 AM PST
Blue Edition? Sounds lame... I'll wait for the Black Edition. Sounds more hardcore!
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by cyberspittle December 4, 2008 5:56 AM PST
I'm holding out for the environmentally-friendly Green Edition.
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by UITD December 4, 2008 7:28 AM PST
They'll just scam you for more because its "green" - just like all of the other green-fraud going on out there these days.
by SalesGuy_Randy December 4, 2008 6:33 AM PST
I fully understand about hating how many bulk PC manufacturers send out their PC's without the Windows OS. I have an older HP running Windows XP. My kids had screw it up pretty good so I went for a fresh install. HP wanted to charge me $50.00 for a set of OEM recovery discs on a computer I already purchased from them! My solution was cheaper.... HP puts their OEM Windows XP tag right on the side of their PC. I went to the web and downloaded a copy of a OEM Windows XP and installed it using the numbers on the side of my box. WORKS 100 TIMES BETTER than the factory installed OS. This one didn't come with all of HP's added Crap Ware and I didn't have to go in and try to find added goodies to remove! Is this stealing becaues I didn't pay for the damn disc from HP?????
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by Seaspray0 December 4, 2008 6:47 AM PST
I don't think you'll have microsoft knocking at your door over it.
by UITD December 4, 2008 7:30 AM PST
What, exactly, do you think you stole? Because you didnt give in to the marketing lies of a huge corporation that doesnt give two craps about you? If you read the materials with the computer, you'll see instruction on how to make those discs yourself!
by sanenazok December 4, 2008 7:34 AM PST
PCDecrapifier has been designed to deal with OEM software overload. I would not use a downloaded copy of an OS unless it comes from a reliable source since there's no way to know if the disk image isn't infected with a trojan or some other BS. Still, I don't think a disk should cost fifty bucks! Guess we know why HP is still profitable.
by faboumen December 4, 2008 8:33 AM PST
When you order computers directly from Dell and HP you can select which software you would like bundled with it. When I bought a Dell last year it arrived with only one program I had to uninstall, and that was only because I forgot to deselect it during the purchase process.
by JBSimmons December 8, 2008 6:07 PM PST
It's all part of the ESD (Electronic Software Distribution) mission. Now they make you pay for a CD done by 3rd parties in 60 - 90 days. Digital River credit card processing software does this. The new CPA act requires them to furnish you a CD UPON REQUEST. Don't they forget there are still folks in rural areas that don't have high speed? I HATE downloads taking 10-20 H-O=U=R=S. Then MSFT issues a server reset after 210Mb right when only 8Mb are left. Go figure....
by kheechun December 4, 2008 7:43 AM PST
I thought the name "blue edition" was quite cool. Maybe Microsoft should consider changing their naming system, instead of using, standard, professional, premium, enterprise, ultimate.... why not just use colours? red edition, yellow edition... lol
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by sanenazok December 4, 2008 9:23 AM PST
Yeah the red edition, sounds great.
by Mr. Dee December 4, 2008 11:16 AM PST
They could actually use (RED) for their charity campaign.
by Mr. Dee December 4, 2008 11:17 AM PST
Its probably that volume license edition of Office 2007 that has been going around since RTM with some of the other modules in the Office family since its on a DVD.
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by angryaussie December 4, 2008 1:18 PM PST
I thought all versions of Windows were already Blue Editions... as in Blue Screen of Death Editions.. heh
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by idfubar December 4, 2008 5:06 PM PST
MS is always back on its heels - why not be first to market with Windows Virtual Appliances and VMs on EC2? There's no compelling reason to steal when you can rent for pennies...
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by 3rdalbum December 5, 2008 3:19 AM PST
In my limited experience, if Microsoft's servers think you're using the same product key on two different computers and won't automatically activate Windows, then you can just call Microsoft and they'll give you an activation code. A lot of what people say about "I had to buy a new copy of Windows!" simply isn't true - the Windows Activation program even tells you to call Microsoft for an activation code. It really isn't difficult or time-consuming, and the operator doesn't interrogate you.

However, if you want to switch to Ubuntu and are willing to deal with the differences between operating systems, then I'd be happy to give you a hand.
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by bblackmoor December 5, 2008 2:31 PM PST
It's not piracy. Forgery and fraud, yes, but not piracy.
http://www.blackgate.net/blog/index.php/sharing-is-not-piracy/
http://www.blackgate.net/blog/index.php/copying-is-not-piracy/
Enough with the propaganda from the Digital Rights Mafia.
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by e_chappuis December 9, 2008 10:05 AM PST
This sounds like a fake complaint comming from M$. With XP still the most pirated OS...!!! They don't like what it means... A vast amount of unhappy Vista owners are going back to XP using a pirate copy... of course M$ doesn't advertise the fact much...

Besides, why don't they simply block the pirated OS, let say after a warning period of 30 days... Guess whhhyyyyy?!?... Oh you got it : it helps them to keep a very high presence in % on the market share!!!!

But true, the best is to rescue any legal Licence stuck on the side or under the PC / Laptop...

And by the way, the cost of an XP HE SP3 charged to the manufacturers of ultra portable, is around 30$ (unfortunately not available to us, simple mortals), then why should we pay 90$ -140$ if we want to have an M$ license????
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